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Yes, it is oval but Oppose anywway, as the geometric distortions are too large and the photo doesn't depict an accurate image of the structure. Alvesgaspar (talk) 01:16, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Question I like it and I can support it, but, to me, "Own work" means that you are the author of the figures, are you the author? Who is the creator?--Miguel Bugallo16:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Photography is a medium, a window, a go between... Just about nothing that a photographer photographs is his "own work" in the strict sense of being the creator of the object photographed and the photographer of the object at the same time. While this combination is possible, statistically speaking is a rarity. A photographer captures reality according to his vision, constructs the image from several elements most likely created by someone else, man, nature, God or whatever. He does this by choosing the spatial arrangements of the objects photographed, uses technique to enhance, diminish the importance of objects, to create proportion or relationship, to isolate from the environment or to integrate to other dissimilar elements, etc., etc. In a few words, a photograph is constructed with elements, and it is the result of certain cualitative and cuantitavive values. Cuantitative values are the technical aspects, exposure, depth of field, movement control. Cualitative values are a different animal altogether, for they are culturally given, as aesthetics for example, and certain traits like color, texture, volume etc., have an appeal of different degree to different people, and are part of the cualitative aspects that influence the perception of the image. So, in this particular case, and 99.9999999999999999% of my photography, I am just a medium that chooses how much or how little to show, and my success or failure depends on my decision with regards to technique and my own perception of aesthetis, and my own cultural capital, and or knowledge or ignorance of the subject matter, which incidetally also plays a part to the observer of the image when it comes to deciding whether the image works or not. Taste is also the product of cultural capital. So, in this particular case, the objects photographed are an extraction of a larger context and reality and no, they are not my own work. My own work is a set of desicions that brings the collection of objects to the two dimensional plane called photography.--Tomascastelazo (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, too much english (I can't understand). Are you the author of the figures? Aren't you?. If you are the author, I can promove it--Miguel Bugallo18:25, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lo siento, es una cuestión de principios. Los mismos principios que hacen que mis fotos estén en el dominio público son los que provocan que rechace sus fotos. No puedo, por principios, por convicciones, aprobar esta imagen, aunque la imagen me gusta. Es una postura personal, posiblemente exclusivamente mía, pero no tengo la obligación de ser igual, lo siento. Lo siento, si la próxima imagen tiene otro motivo, podré votar a favor, no es una cuestión personal, son creencias que están por encima hasta de las votaciones de Commons, aunque basadas en la legislación española, que es la legislación que conozco. Debo votar en contra de lo que parece un copyvio por el mismo motivo por el que mis fotos están en el dominio público. Aún saltándome normas de la comunidad, lo seguiré haciendo. Es una postura personal que entiendo consecuente, no es nada personal, lo haré siempre: Entienda que es algo así como parte de mi identidad, lo siento --Miguel Bugallo22:45, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Por cierto, creo que voy a arriesgarme a ser bloqueado y a componer alguna imagen a partir de alguna foto suya. Expondré proximamente en su página de discusión cual es la foto. No podrá pedir usted el borrado de la misma sin solicitar el borrado de la imagen original. No me gusta el cinismo--Miguel Bugallo22:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
@Lmbuga i.e. making a photograph of a building (respecting the freedom of panorama) and nominating as a FPC it does not mean that you have to be the architect of that building. Making a photograph of a monument and proposing it as a FPC it is meaning that the monument is build by you.. If Tomascastelazo or anybody of us makes an image that is not violates copyright issues (ie FOP) can present the photo here.. For me the most important is the image to has some EV.. Ggia (talk) 19:00, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Miguel Bugalo: I find your reasons to oppose rather "curious." Opposing on principle of what? This is a technical, informative and aesthetic issue, not a moral one. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 14:11, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Unless we get additional info about the copyright of the depicted figures, I think this is a clear {{Derivative}}. However, this issue is a recurring one with Tomascastelazo which I have discussed with him several times, so I won't vote against this nomination nor propose the deletion. Regards. --Dodo (talk) 11:47, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This argument is transcending the ridiculous and the old, to say the least. There are thousands and thousands and thousands of images in Wikipedia Commons that have to do with artcrafts. Ceramics, clothing, decorative items, bread, wedding cakes, easter eggs, etc., etc., that could under the logic presented here for deletion, be candidates for deletion. Seldom does a photographer is the creator of the subject matter of his photographs. Photography records many aspects of life and culture. What does an encyclopedia study? Life, things, culture! Photography in this case is a tool that enhances the value of information! To photograph these items is to bring culture into the eyes and minds of people that would otherwise not be in contact with such items... I´ve never been to Egypt, but I have an idea of what Egypt is like through photography! If someone has never heard of Catrinas in Mexico, well, guess what, through this image they just found out! Support or oppose the image based on its cultural value, its technical execution or its aesthetic value. If someone wants to nominate for deletion under whatever reasons fancies them, do it. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 14:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Commons:Derivative works. Colin (talk) 18:19, 24 October 2011 (UTC) I've decided to strike that reason for I think it is no longer as clear as I first thought. Compare this with the earlier featured File:Catrinas 2.jpg. That picture had a high-quality subject and was an excellent photograph. The subjects in this photograph aren't nearly as well made (indeed, their lack of artistic originality may deny them copyright and so save the image from deletion). The actual photograph is ok, a QI, but not feature level. The flash has over exposed the whitest faces, the white paper in the hats and that the bride is carrying, leading to a loss of detail. I don't mind the busy crowd of the image, though the blue next to the wedding dress is distracting. Overall, there's nothing saying "wow" that makes me think this rises above a QI. Colin (talk) 09:16, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As interesting as the image is, as the figures were not made by the photographer, I have no choice but to oppose on the grounds that this image is, IMO, a derivative. Should the copyright holder of the figure give permission for this particular photograph to be licensed appropriately, I would change my vote. Nice photo, Tomascastelazo. Earthsound (talk) 21:46, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I believe that these votes should not be considered valid. Here we vote for the photograph. If the photograph is violating copyright issues it should be proposed for delete.. not voting against here. When you opposing an image you give a review to the photographer to make it better as it is mentioned in the FPC rules:
"A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate (which has been carefully selected by the author/nominator). English is the most widely understood language on Commons, but any language may be used in your review. A helpful review will often reference one or more of the criteria listed above."
Ggia, stop striking through other people's comments. We take your opinion that you regard those comments as irrelevant or somehow breaking some FPC rule, but you must not change other people's text in any way. Colin (talk) 11:44, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is bewildering! The precedent that this would establish is that every single item, buildings, artcraft, ceramic, stained glass, sculptures, easter eggs, wedding cakes, textiles, etc., etc., etc., and just about any particular form of cultural expression that finds its way into any type of object would not be elegible for FP!!! 99.999% of photographs depict items or things that were not created by the photographer who took and uploaded the pictures. And one more thing, if anyone believes that this is derivative work, then nominate for deletion! --Tomascastelazo (talk) 22:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Where are the rules that an image cannot be nominated when it is a derivative work? If you want to apply a rule like that you can propose a new rule. Not using opposing vote to other's images! Making an image of a building (repsecting FOP) and nominating here it is the same issue.. nobody complains that the photographer is not the architect of the building! Ggia (talk) 11:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If this image will be deleted after you speedy deletion requestion.. the image will be deleted and it will not be available here as FPC. In this cases opposing.. this candidate will not help the faster deletion of this image. I removed your votes. Don't use FPC with opposing, supporting deletion requests etc. Ggia (talk) 12:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And the rules remind us (should we need reminding) "Remember, the goal of the Wikimedia Commons project is to provide a central repository for free images". This image is not free. It cannot become a FP and will be deleted. Colin (talk) 12:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Perhaps it is time for the FPC criteria to explicitly state that the image must meet the content-related policies and guidelines. The featured-*** criteria on Wikipedia do this already. When articles are judged on Wikipedia's FAC, reviewers aren't just interested in the quality of the prose and comprehensiveness, etc., but also in whether the policies and guidelines are fully met. Whether this is stated explicitly in our criteria or is just completely obvious, we look like a bunch of fools if we promote to featured status an image that fails basic copyright checks. Colin (talk) 09:08, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @ Colin: you look like a fool also when you state that the image is not free. You are passing judgement on something you evidently have not the most remote idea. Since you categorically state that the image is not free, then provide the evidence. Don´t "suspect" and then move on suspision. It violates the sound principle of innocent until proven guilty. I will not bother to argue in the DR page anymore on these stupid DR requests. Arguing against stupidity is useless.
Info No user has the right to strike the vote of another user except in the specific cases identified in the rules: socks and users not untitled to vote. I have reverted Ggia edit, as it was a clear abuse. This has nothing to do with the matter under discussion and the argument that the image is a copyvio, which is ridiculous imo. Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:39, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment My edit clearly was not an abuse. These votes are not for the image itself.. but for copyright issues. What is this? If we want an image to be deleted we spam with opposing votes if this is nominated for FPC, QC etc? Ggia (talk) 15:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I find the composition spoiled by the back rows of figurines which are only just visible. (Regarding the copyright, I believe the best place to discuss that is in a DR. Suspected copyvio should not be the reason for an oppose vote. The vote will only matter if the DR is closed as a keep, and in that case, an oppose based on copyvio will look pretty silly. Nevertheless I don't think those votes should be struck by other users.) --99of9 (talk) 04:20, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Check this out: here is the oppose vote of Colin 18:19, 24 October 2011 [1] and the "speedy deletion" request which turned to DR is here 09:16, 26 October 2011 [2] (two days later). Colin proposed the image for deletion after my comment and my struck of the vote @ 08:01, 26 October 2011 [3]. My question is this one: can somebody oppose for copyvio reasons before proposing the image for Deletion? Is it here the appropriate place for opposing to an image because "may-be", "it is suspected" copyvio? Ggia (talk) 05:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm grown up enough to accept when I get things wrong. The copyright issue wasn't as straightforward as I assumed and there's a precedent with these characters Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Catrinas 2.jpg, which was only saved from deletion because the image page notes that they are on permanent display in a public place (where Mexican copyright law gives FOP rights, but the UK for example would not) -- that image was regarded as derivative of a copyrightable work. That previous image's deletion discussion was complicated by it already being a featured picture, which is why it is important to get these things right prior to featuring. IMO, where doubts were raised, the nomination should be suspended until deletion review takes place and I should have created the deletion request immediately. Colin (talk) 07:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment DR takes 7 days (or thereabouts), FPC takes 10, so I don't think we really need a suspension process, and it's not really a huge deal if something gets featured for a few days with a big DR tag on it. It's easier to just keep the two processes separate, by not letting votes in one affect votes in the other. --99of9 (talk) 12:49, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If you want my opinion.. When an image is violate copyright laws it should be deleted, nevertheless if it is FPC or whatever. If this image Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Catrinas 2.jpg violates laws.. it should be deleted.. When somebody see an image as a feature picture candidate.. and thinks that this image is "probably" copyvio should not oppose in FPC but direct request the deletion. Ggia (talk) 08:37, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Why so dark with such a sunny day? Imo, underexposed, and blue looks oversaturated. Also, symmetric structures like this, should be shot from the middle, imo. This one was taken from the right. --Paolostefano1412 (talk) 16:54, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't think the painting's texture would produce those colour blotches, which are typical of high ISO chroma noise. This is a compact camera from 2006, taking an ISO 400 pic. Colin (talk) 09:21, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose I can see distinct chromatic aberation, and I have a feeling that a HDR-type post-processing has been applied, leaving darkish (resp. whitish) halos around some elements. --MAURILBERT(discuter)17:38, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment this image will be more nice if there will be more sky to the right? is it possible to add more sky to the right part? Ggia (talk) 19:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Question Could you please explain, in few words, why do you oppose? It is not a mandatory, but very appreciated, in the way to improve the quality next time. Thank you.--Jebulon (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- Sorry but I don't think the illustration is among the very best in its category. One of the things I deslike is the cropped car, at right; another is the too obvious printing dot pattern. Alvesgaspar (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info Porto Covo, west coast of Portugal. View to north at the end of the day. Compare with this FP of the same place, taken at a different hour and time of the year. Alvesgaspar (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Already one image of that place is featured. I don't find so exciting this landscape to support a new version of this landscape to be featured. Asthetically is not a well balanced image.. look the lower right corner - this part is not nice for the whole composition. Ggia (talk) 18:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support definitely excellent composition and nice point of view, subdued light (not absolutely negative – better than the oversaturated one Alves mentioned). Maybe not superb quality, but I think it's one of the best images on Commons. Earned winner of Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 in Germany. --kaʁstnDisk/Cat16:47, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unexplainable for me how this picture could get winner of the Wiki Loves Monuments contest, the technic is below average, the composition is quite okay but not very special, sorry but there are much more better pictures in rearmost positions --Wladyslaw (talk) 12:20, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I guess WLM is not just about only FP's, there are other qualities juries might search for in a picture (the proffesional photographers view is very different, and technical quality is sometimes put as second important), see also the pictures that won in WLM 2010 (nl). Mvg, Basvb (talk) 17:01, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I find the overall quality of the WLM known winners (here), from five contries, very disappointing and hope that the same does not happen with the remaining countries. That is of course the result of the extremely poor average quality of the uploaded pictures, many of them (not to say the majority) being close to trash. In my opinion the incentive made by the national organizers to upload as many pictures as possible is to blame. A shame, really. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 19:22, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
10% more of the 60.000 monuments in the netherlands got an average picture, so now 60% of all monuments are covered. Some pictures are trash, but more then 90% is just acceptable quality. Not everything is a featured picture, or intented to be one. And as said before, some of the jury also look to other things then just technical quality. I think that saying most is trash just means you haven't looked good enough. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 20:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Dutch results are on my computer, you'll see them on 5 november, but we were talking about average quality, so the 50 best are not that interesting for that discussion. I don't think the dutch pictures are so much better then other countries on average. I've seen a lot of wonderfull pictures in for example Portugal and France as well. And in all that quantity in Germany there must be something wonderfull as well. Indeed quantity was an important aspect of the competion, you've to make it if you want to cover all those tens of thousands of monuments, but what if you would ask users to only upload good pictures? All that will happen is that you get less pictures, you wont get more good ones. I agree that it's hard to find the better ones between all the average ones (6 out of 10). I'll publish my selections of 1000, 250 and 100 best dutch pictures (IMO) after 5 nov. I would like some input after that, what others think about it, how many are suitable for for example FP or QI. I guess watching the short lists gives a much better impression on quality. I can link you to last years selections from me: User:Basvb/WLM (many of those QI), and User:Basvb/500 (everything catching the eye, also some bad quality here that's on purpose). And then I would like to ask you a list of monuments, to see how the pictures are used, because the thing is that they have to illustrate the monument, most of the pictures do not intent to be of the best quality (it's quite hard to make 60.000 very good quality images). The focus is still on getting good coverage. And people like me wont be able to upload those wonderfull perfect pictures, so then people like me can better focus on getting a lot of the monuments a picture. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 21:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it would have been possible to increase the average quality without affecting the monument coverage, by limiting the number of photos per monument, per user. When browsing through the photos of my own country I realized that many users (especially those with an astronomical number of images) took several photos of the same monument, most of them substandard, as if they wished to break some kind of record. It is amazingly high the number of shots made with the camera pointing upward (most of times a compact camera with a small focal distance), from a short distance of the monument, suggesting that they were made "on the move", without the slightest concern for quality. I'm sure we need more inteligence (or just some common sense) in the way the contest is organized, and not only by limiting the number of images. For example, by agreeing on a didactic text, common to all countries, were some basic principles are stated and explained with examples. And, of course, a set of common requirements used for: (i) rapidly browsing through the whole sets and promptly eliminate the photos not respecting those principles; (ii) helping the jury to chose the best photos on the basis of some agreed critera: ev, image quality, artistic value, size, absence of obvious manipulations, etc., whatever it is considered relevant. It is my conviction that a great improvement on the quality of the contributions could be achieved by implementing very simple measures, like the ones I have suggested. Btw, why very few of the best Commons' photographers have participated in the contest? Maybe because they didn't consider the model serious enough! -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:19, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well myself I've made 100 pictures of some monuments (e.g a castle) from all different corners and every corner in the building. I think it gives a nice overview for the castle, and I think an extra picture isn't preventing another one from being uploaded, you can always choose not to use a picture on commons, but you can't choose to use a picture which is not on commons... I think a lot of rules and warnings for participants just makes the things (as usual) only more complicated, thus only resulting in less pictures, not in better ones. Part of the goal from the contest was to give new users an easy chance to contribute to Wikipedia. That people do not want to participate on forhand is their own choice, and I don't think it has much to do about what they think of the model, I think it has more to do with the fact that they don't find it nice to compete for prices, but prefer just to upload without competition and prices (they want to do real voluntairy work). Mvg, Basvb (talk) 17:50, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would be interesting to experience what "other things" was the basis for a image competition than image criteria. And it is undoubtful that there were a couple of pictures clearly reasonable for the 1. place than this picture is. --Wladyslaw (talk) 20:36, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, well look to the picture which won in the Netherlands last year, that for sure wasn't the picture with the best technical quality, but it had character. Something happend there, it told a story. A lot of people said the winner was crap/shouldn't have won. But some proffesional photographers said as first response to the results: wow what a nice picture with a good story. (It's difficult for me to explain in English exactly. Other question: Wladyslaw, which pictures in the (german) top 100 do you think should have won (or are suitable for FP (then you'll see nominations :P)), or do you think the winners are not in the top-100? I can't ask you to watch 32.000 images :P, althought I must say I learned a lot of those hours I spend watching all the 13000 dutch pictures. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 21:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is not possible to identify those "other things" because no common evaluation criteria existed! Each country had complete autonomy and I very much doubt that such criteria were established in each of them, before the evaluation started! - Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can explain these other things, but just in Dutch. Indeed each country had autonomy, althought there where some basic rules, I guess more rules would have ment worse coöperation between the countries, althought it could be considered. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 17:50, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Neutral While the subject looks really nice, there are some strange posterization in the background which makes no sense at all. It's like something in the picture is wrong. →AzaToth18:47, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This specimen is small, pierced by a pin and the bottom of a box. I try to make him a background that emphasizes it without distorting it. I still have to work this.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 19:01, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment -- Excellent composition (I'm impressed), so-so image quality (some noise reduction could be applied to the sky). But I'm not allowed to support the panorama while the head of one of the characters is missing! -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 17:37, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum: the missing head that Alvesgaspar mentioned & the water on the horizon doesn't meet well on the left side, close to the building. Earthsound (talk) 18:30, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that can just be done, also for WLM-images, they are just like all other files. ~If it's for some jury they might always decide to look to the old version. So just overload it I guess if you want to. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 18:10, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also consider that for correcting this image I had to create something unreal, so it's preferred not to upload over the original file anyway. ■ MMXX talk23:19, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It may be a language barrier issue, but I'm not sure what you mean by "I had to create something unreal". My suggestion would be either replace the original FPC you submitted with this one or, if you don't want to replace it, withdraw your FPC submission and submit the edited version for FP consideration. It's a great image. Earthsound (talk) 05:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What you suggested above was to replace the original file with this one. That can't be done due to the on-going contest. As to replacing the picture in the original nomination, that is not usually the best way because we never know to what version the vores apply. For me, submiting an alternative, like MMXX did is the correct procedure. Alvesgaspar (talk) 11:47, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delist This is not small because technology has moved on, this is small because it was savagely downsampled. The camera shoots at 6.3 Mpx. --99of9 (talk) 04:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did and I wounder why this point was subsidiary backwards and now should be main argument for removal. In general I am for conservation of the status quo. A removal should only be possible in very well founded cases and sorry for that: but "to few pixels" is not very founded. Apart from that: commons is a online side and not a advertising agency which needs high resolution for pre-press work. --Wladyslaw (talk) 13:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The original candidate was before the guidelines was set up. New pictures have to fulfill this rules, older picture have not. This is by the way a legal principle in each every civilized system. That is what I meant with conservation of the status has to be respected. --Wladyslaw (talk) 14:30, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The featured picture criteria changes, and as the text on COM:FPC says "Over time, featured picture standards change. It may be decided that for some pictures which were formerly "good enough", this is no longer the case. This is for listing an image which you believe no longer deserves to be a featured picture." →AzaToth14:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Everything is said already in this case. And I guess you are familiar with the difference between "it may be decided" or "it has to be decided". I see no automatism, that FP get one day to small so they have to be removed. EOD --Wladyslaw (talk) 20:20, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delist Although the question of Ex post facto law depends on you cultural background, the guideline remains clear on the subject, like Azatoth elaborated. Delisting is not about retroactively applying the current guidelines, it's about the personal believes concerning the consistent quality of the current cluster of featured pictures. From time to time this consistency ceases to exist from a subjective point of view. Hence, it remains an individual decision to delist an image for reasons such as downsampling. And so do I.
@Wladyslaw I'd be rather careful about defining civilized systems by their standing towards retroactive laws. Since you live in Germany, you might want to know that retroactive laws were applied twice in German history. Once at the Nuremberg trials and for the second time at the Wall-shooter's trial.
Regarding your statement on the character of Commons: Commons:Project scope clearly defines that media files on the Commons are made available to all. That does include advertising agencies. It's not about either or, it's about making content available to all out there, and yes this includes advertising agencies. You might want to notice that advertising agencies are not the only ones re-using high resolution content. Closing the gap and being able to deliver content even to the professional media industry will help to accomplish the aim of a universal distribution of our media files to everyone.
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Delist It really is a nice image with those colours and composition but, besides the fact that quality is very very low (it was taken a long time ago, technology changes bla bla bla whatever), I can see that focus is not on the guy. So it makes it even worse. Compare the blanket on the right side, nearest to the camera, well focused, with the same blanket, near the guy. The guy is out of focus. Lighting on his face is not very good either. Iso value is high at 400 (not determinant, I know), and f value is very low at 5,6. What 99of9 said is true too. Too many problems, not even geotagged; maybe valued image, but not FP, delist. --Paolo Costa (talk) 15:45, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment I like the out-of-focus background but IMO the DOF is too shallow and unnecessarily so (at f1.8 85mm) -- could have increased the shutter speed (1/1600). The result is that that left butterfly isn't in focus and I suspect overall sharpness would have been improved by stopping down a little. But it is a nice picture so I'm torn. Colin (talk) 16:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not a bad picture (I really like how the two eyes are combined to a single "face"), but the sharpness isn't convincing, the cut-off branch on the left site is disturbing, and the background is noisy. --Kabelleger (talk) 22:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Question If you used the flash, you could have used lower ISO with faster aperture isn't it? When I checked metadata, I noticed f/5.6 and t=1/60s, with flash on: it looks like you really had bad light, or at least you must have had to shoot from considerable distance. I am intrigued by these values in metadata. --Paolo Costa (talk) 18:47, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Info It was a difficult natural light with shadow, the bird was very active and in some distance. I made a series of photos, this was the best I got --Llez (talk) 20:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose composition problem: bad point of view with the overlapping mushrooms in foreground (the main motive) and those in the background. The latter are also cut off at top, so there the crop is too tight. I don't like the leaves, too, which are disturbing and don't suit in the composition IMHO. --kaʁstnDisk/Cat09:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: Bad crop; chromatic noise; stitch errors →AzaToth15:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support -- Delicious, I had one last supper. There are at least two varieties: the one shown, which you can cut with a knive (name?); and the other, which you eat with a spoon only when it is very ripe, in a pasty state. Alvesgaspar (talk) 19:52, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose I don't like lightning and colors on this one. The one above is better, IMO (+ I like the detail with people in the basket). --Lošmi (talk) 23:29, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose My comment is the same like the other image above: I don't find something featurable here. If the image illustrates a hot air balloon.. another view can better demonstrate this object. Ggia (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment It is a nice pic, but, the lighting on the hut is very bad, which is disturbing. The crop isn't the best either with too much sky and little ground before the hut. Otherwise a very nice image. --Paolo Costa (talk) 15:25, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Request - The centered composition doesn't work so well here and the deer look boxed in. I kind of would like to see this pic a bit from an angle so we could see a bit of the side of a deer, less boring rectangles of grass and shrub, but of course this is kind of a lucky shot, even if they were in captivity. Is it possible to re-crop it so there's more background around the deer to the sides, top? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IdLoveOne (talk • contribs) 00:07, 30 October 2011 UTC (UTC)
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Oppose I don't find something featurable here. If the image illustrates a hot air balloon.. another view can better demonstrate this object. Ggia (talk) 16:36, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Kabelleger, I wrote on QIC on the same: 'The tower is ~20m high, because of trees I stood ~26m away. So the bottom front edge is ~26m away, the top of the spire ~40m. So for me it's natural to be titled, shall I "fake" the vertical lines? Sorry if I'm wrong ;)'. So, I still don't know how I should do that :) ---AleXXw10:18, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Making the vertical lines parallel in your image; this can easily be done but I do not think it should be done in this case. -- KlausFoehl (talk) 13:08, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as of the current image version. The new image version (with changed perspective) should not use the same file name, as one cannot show old and new version as alternatives. -- KlausFoehl (talk) 14:46, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Neutral The picture is very nice and HQ no doubt, but I think is very important to get the reflections of this skyline on the lake. I was there recently too. A pity not to show them. And I also think that would have added more balance to the composition, which imo is too tightly cropped at the bottom. --Paolostefano1412 (talk) 23:36, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support -- Wow, wonderful work! The presence of some chromatic noise is fully mitigated by the overall quality, beauty and value of the image. Congrats! -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 13:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question Are the surrounding that dark and are they positioned there in real life, or are they multiple images concatenated? Want to know before I cast my mostly important vote :) →AzaToth22:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Info They are not positioned in this way. In the Cathedral Santa Ana exist only five figured medieval Windows, two in the northern transept, two in the southern transept and one, quite different (Mary with Jesus), in the central crossing. This picture is a conspectus of them (five single photos, on black backgound). --Llez (talk) 06:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: Many shortcomings : poor image quality, unfortunate lighting, random composition. --MAURILBERT(discuter)17:51, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- It is certainly useful and perhaps a Valued Image. But nothing extraordinary justifies here the FP seal and quality is on the lower side, due to poor lighting and unsharpness. Alvesgaspar (talk) 19:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The floating I find unappealing, and the reflections on the screen are also a minus. --ELEKHHT
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It's hard to believe that one person made this picture in 1937 and uploaded it in 2010. It's possible but I think the creater is another person. Maybe the uploader or nominator could search that out? Mvg, Basvb (talk) 11:52, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Toh, un altro Paolo, piacere!! allora, in quanto al panorama, devo dire che sono presenti aberrazioni cromatiche tipo cyan/magenta, ad esempio molto visibili nell'estremo sinistro. Secondo, dovresti provare una correzione di prospettiva in quanto si richiede che la linee verticali siano a 90º rispetto all'orizzonte lungo tutta l'immagine. Finalmente, il cielo è sovraesposto in alcuni punti e sono presenti "stitching errors", cioé errori nell'incollatura delle immagini. Tutte queste cose devono essere corrette per ottenere lo status di Featured Picture, qui la gente é molto esigente, la foto deve essere quasi perfetta e molte volte si richiede anche migliore illuminazione del sole. Ti consiglio di trovare il software di Lightroom, col quale puoi correggere facilmente tutti gli errori che ho evidenziato. Buona fortuna e saluti! --Paolo Costa (talk) 15:47, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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*Oppose the inkcaps has a big, dark, grainy and fluffy gloria around them that looks suspicious, almost like a cut-n-paste job. →AzaToth21:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info A male Ruddy Darter (Sympetrum sanguineum) in obelisk posture for thermoregulation. Created, uploaded and nominated by Quartl (talk) 13:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The image guideline states "Normally there should never be two featured pictures that are just different versions of the same image, so if a better version exists the original version should be delisted". While it's not a must, it's still in the guideline (and while some sees the guideline merely as a paper to ignore, others see it as strict minimum rules) →AzaToth16:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delist very good and useful documentary character, but both quality and the image itself (it's more a snapshot) are not outstanding --Wladyslaw (talk) 08:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Sadly I have to oppose this one. The subject looks pretty fine, and the setting is nice. But the really bad clonejob on the left destroys the image (Why where is even needed?) →AzaToth02:53, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I arrived to base camp @5100m by bus not by trekking. The most hard to go into Tibet is to get a visa and an organized tour guide due to the Chinese goverment rules. Ggia (talk) 20:39, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support I'd give you three positives for such an amazing shot, if it was possible. I actually envy you. What a nice trip, and good weather conditions at the time the picture was taken. Congrats. --Paolo Costa (talk) 08:07, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Nice lighting and well captured... but the CA (violet fringes) and the unsharpness of the head at full resolution do not make it suitable for FP status. --Cayambe (talk) 18:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose agree with AzaToth. But I also find the crop disturbing. I would like to see the whole door (? I don't know what's the name for that element in the bottom), I think this shot needed to "go pano". --201.243.15.14020:56, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Neutral A good picture, but some parts overexposed, CA e.g. at the left side on the lower part of the left minaret, and "ghosts", which should be removed. --Llez (talk) 09:11, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, hope I don't sound like trying to influence (just trying to share, and maybe help some people who don't have experienced to realise). But when taking night shots, one is faced with the contrast challenge. It's very difficult not to have some burnt parts. Then I could go for multiple exposures blending trick, but this would extend the time I spent taking the sources picture. I can't do that in fast decreasing light like what happens at dusk or I would lose the lighting consistency between the pics. I shall say that I haven't found the trick, but if someone knows I'd be happy to know :). As for the ghosts, this is recurring issue, and again, it's hard not to have a few of these in a busy touristy place like this one. I've waited a moment to have a spot with this "few" people on it. - Benh (talk) 17:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Strong oppose A stitched panorama should have a superb quality, and the severe stitching errors in combination of the relative low JPEG quality (losts of ghosting, visible artifacts) is a no no to me. →AzaToth15:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lines are not straight all along the image, there're stitching errors, 1 Mb size on a pano is kinda low imo, crop is too tight at the sides and top (cropped a part of the structure out), lighting is not ideal here either so... Oppose --Paolo Costa (talk) 15:21, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- Frankly I consider the linear composition a bit boring, as well as the lighting and color. The building seems to be gliding to the right and the antenna (or flag pole) on top of the roof is cropped. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 00:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info FC Thun vs FC Lausanne on 23 of October 2011: Dennis Hediger (17) showing it's not his fault if Jocelyn Roux (9) performs loopings during the match. Created by Rama - uploaded by Rama - nominated by Rama -- Rama (talk) 23:14, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rather unlikely if noticing the standard resolution of 5.616 pixel × 3.744 pixel and comparing it to the current resolution. Correct me if I'm wrong, Rama. Regards, PETER WEISTALK15:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I know it from my own images: I use very often a crop! And 300mm can't be enough in a soccer stadium. I think that image is simply a crop for a better composition. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 15:17, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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InfoI doubt you can do it. You must know the exact coordinates for the speaker's desk he is leaning on. It was taken in the United States Capitol. Malcolm X and Dr. Martin Luther King attended the Senate's debate on the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Compare File:MLK and Malcolm X USNWR cropped.jpg. Regards, PETER WEISTALK12:47, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose persepolis is one of my favorite archaeological places.. and this is a nice object from that archaeological place.. but the general composition is not featurable.. too much sky to the top part of the image.. the mountain is just behind the object etc.. A better composition of this object is possible. Ggia (talk) 16:49, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose - The water falling up I don't understand why? What do you want the image to tell? Beside that the technical issues raised above. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 17:59, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What I want to tell. Vodka does not like lemon. This illusion is only possible through a trick.
Oppose technical problems per Alvesgaspar. Not convinced the concept works, nor the EV of it (its use seems contrived). This is just a trick photo. Colin (talk) 20:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support At first I thought this painting was like a big room in size because of the resolution... But when I noticed the actual work was a bit less than 2 meters in length I got amused a little. =) Great resolution and quality. --Ximonic (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The "requirement" is an absolute minimum. 4MP is pretty low, lower than any camera you can buy, and low considering the camera used takes 10MP. If it were a stunning pic, I'd say 4MP was ok but this is average in all ways and below average in MP. Colin (talk) 23:09, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The question is not if 4 MP is below average, the question is what is the benefit for this picture if it would with higher resolution. For pictures of buildings where details are important to see I would agree with you. But for a landscape picture the resolution is definitely secondary. --Wladyslaw (talk) 09:53, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The MP is only one of many reasons why this isn't one of our "finest". True the LHS of the picture contains no detail but the RHS, if actually sharp, should show the detail of the layered sedimentary rock formations and the grass and trees. It is an unspectacular picture IMO. Colin (talk) 10:05, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Unfortunately I find the too prominent and unbalanced foreground spoils the composition. I also think this is where a panorama is suitable, as per this FP. - Benh (talk) 09:36, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that is exactly the same spot. That is the chalet du Mont-Royal, you can check the geography of the place with the geotag, it's a pretty small place. That FP is cropped, but you can still see disturbing branches. You can also notice that picture was taken in winter: branches are still in the way, only they don't have leaves. --Paolo Costa (talk) 19:18, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think the colors, exposure and overall technical quality (like noise level) is very good. The foreground is distracting though. Detail level could be better, cf. benhs review. --Slaunger (talk) 20:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question I noticed about sharpness looking at the awesome panoramic mentioned by Benh. No wonder that picture is technically better, (also keeping in mind it is made by 15 pictures), but I think this is a cool one-shot optional version, from the same spot, but taken at night and in fall. So I found the RAW file, sharpened it and re-cropped it as suggested, only I don't know how to post the alterative version on the candidate list. Can anyone help me post it? This would be the alternative version: [4]. Thanks in advance.--Paolo Costa (talk) 21:08, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You could add subsection to the current nom, but I believe it would be better to create a separate nom. As you can only have two actives noms, you may want to withdraw one first. Just in case u're interested, the alternative crop is much better in my opinion, but I'm afraid the comparison to the current FP will disfavor your picture. You may also want to look at the white balance, because I think it's very on the purple side (look aesthetic for sure, but is it true to what you saw ?). - Benh (talk) 21:52, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. I'm gonna withdraw this one, check on the WB and then we let voters decide whether it's worth to keep this view in our gallery or not, thanks.--Paolo Costa (talk) 22:03, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose While it hurts me to do so, I have to say no. And it's not so much about the shadow, the problem is that the shadow is strongly underlined by those small parts that are strongly lit. Łukasz Wolf Golowanow (talk) 07:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose (formerly FPX) Image does not fall within the guidelines, Too strong compression used which has removed most of the fine details, which is not due to it being an old image, but someone wanted to save space. →AzaToth17:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Although I imagine is a crammed space and hard to take a good photo, I still would expect better composition. --ELEKHHT22:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support high EV, historical image, good quality concerning it was shot by film.. I don't like the flash lighting but the image is featurable. Ggia (talk) 15:43, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- Everything but the grape is noisy and usharp. Also, probably because of poor lighting conditions, the picture seems underexposed and colors are washed-out. Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:10, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support considering the resolution of the image (2.752 × 2.391) the image is not so noisy - justifing that the subject is very nice (stong EV) and it is featurable. Ggia (talk) 09:26, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The ugly chroma noise is visible at screen-size on my laptop never mind pixel peeping. Sorry, that kind of noise has no charm. As for the focus/depth-of-focus, it is very slightly focused too far in front but I think that's just being picky. Colin (talk) 20:28, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support -- A beautiful picture of a nice church. Overall very good quality despite some minor flaws: a few burned whites (unavoidable) and a slight left/right assymetry that could be corrected. Good job. Alvesgaspar (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good picture with quality, low ISO, and correct in general. Only minor flaw: I would add some ground to the composition, it's a bit too "squary", but that's ok. --Paolo Costa (talk) 16:19, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose The panorama is a bit tilted to the left, and there is a slight yellowish tint over the whole image. The possible stitching errors could be my mind trying to fool me though. →AzaToth19:23, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support In full resolution I can see the errors but they are so minor that - in my opinion - don't destroy the FP potential of this picture -- Béria Limamsg14:58, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose My vote won't change anything, but I don't see what's so special here, and the minarets being restored (are they ?) is a killer - Benh (talk) 10:14, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I don't think the restoration of the minarets is really an issue from an objective point of view, although it would be great to have a picture with the minarets uncovered too. --Simone17:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm not sure. There are some negatives: the scaffolding and various distortions resulting from the stitching perspectivse (e.g., the sides of the main dome are straight but the bands aren't in line horizontally). Also I think the colour balance is wrong resulting in very orange brickwork and an unwell sky. Perhaps that's the early morning sun but taking the temperature down e.g. -20 on Lightroom is better IMO. I can't help thinking that this isn't the best side of the building. However, the level of detail is great and so the EV is high. Colin (talk) 18:27, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't know whether this is the kind of image that is suitable for FP but I really like it, all the details but still the strong main subject and the nice light. (it won WLM NL, but that's of none importance here) -- Basvb (talk) 10:34, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose overall image quality and composition is not featurable.. ie. placement of people inside picture.. image not sharp enough (too soft) etc. Ggia (talk) 15:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but composition with daily live and people is what makes this picture special. The it's indeed not a standard straight forward composition but one with living around it. Like the old dutch ice paintings (not Vermeer ;)). I can understand the fact that there might be some technical flaws (when there is a lot on the picture it's hard not to have those). It's like a picture I would expect on a puzzle with all these tiny little details. Sorry for reacting on the oppose vote, but I can't agree/understand the composition argument. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I added a comment on the image. A better composition of these 3 person in the photos is possible aesthetically. I don't try to compare this image with old dutch ice paintings. Technically the image is unsharp and a little bit blurry.. isn't it? Ggia (talk) 17:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well I think that these persons are what make this picture special, together they create this calm small village evening mood. The talking neighbors on the fence, the woman working with the goat. The laundry, and much more details come together pretty fine. I can only find one flaw compositionwise, thats the line in front of the face of the man, but that's such a tiny thing I think that is by far compensated by the rest of the composition. I don't really see the sharpness and blurry issue, but it might be a tiny bit on the house sides. But for me the persons on the picture are on the perfect place, I wouldn't know another place you could put these persons, and without them the composition would be not at interesting at all. The persons make this picture alive imo. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 17:40, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- Somehow this image makes me recall the paintings of Vermeer. Maybe because it is a trivial subject and there is a peaceful mood around it. Let's wait and see, I'm still not sure I want to support it... Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:41, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Daily life may include people on a picture, there should be no reason for opposition in that way. Prime example of daily life in a dutch town. -- Leo VI (talk) 21:52, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: as per 3 comments above. Yann (talk) 14:25, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- Come on guys! Yes, it is Joan Baez with Bob Dylan and the picture has obvious historical ev (which was already acknowleadged in two wikis). But so what? I see no quality here and the human expressions are not interesting. Alvesgaspar (talk) 11:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm forced to agree with Alves Gaspar. What is so special about the "picture" (not the subject, but the picture itself) who justify FP status? -- Béria Limamsg14:54, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the picture might not be of extraordinary quality, but it is quite good. The reason is proposed as FP is that it is a historical picture of 2 famous artists taken at a famous event. I think that's quite enough to be featured. Yann (talk) 15:05, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not interested by the subject, therefore I will not vote. But I globally agree with Yann. Here it is not QI. A picture can be FP without to be a (technically speaking) quality image...--Jebulon (talk) 10:42, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There are many images of them (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc) this one strikes me as photographically less impressive than several of them. Particularly having their hands cut off is a shame. --ELEKHHT19:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I uploaded the other one from the same event (File:Joan Baez and Bob Dylan.jpg), unfortunately we do not have a high resolution copy. Other images are taken at different times, and not during a famous event. That's my point, and you failed to understand that. Yann (talk) 22:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for uploading the other version with a more interesting facial expression (IMO). But I don't understand how you assessed my failure of understanding something I haven't expressed an opinion on? To clarify: I do attribute value to the image, but that is not the only criteria. We are not going to feature all images from that event. --ELEKHHT00:03, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose problems of this composition are: the proportion of the picture divided by the lighthouse are not optimal: neither golden ratio nor rule of thirds are marked here, so it appears very casual. The diagonal line of the waterside does not look accommodating too. There is to less space above the tower. And last: the quality is rather average, the sharpness is lacking and the edges look washed. --Wladyslaw (talk) 08:37, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's true that this picture doesn't follow golden ratio and rule of thirds, but that's not a must. Composition as it is works for me. --Lošmi (talk) 16:44, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose nice scenery, perspective correction would work very well here, and it would have helped to have one more millimetre space at the top. --ELEKHHT
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Warum man hier zum wiederholten male Commons-Usern Rachestimmen unterstellt, bleibt mir vollkommen schleierhaft. Das Contra ist mir Fakten am/zum/über das Bild belegt und hier eine persönlich-motivierte Revanche sehen zu müssen sowie in alles und jeden eine hinein zu interpretieren ist sinnlos, heizt höchstens die Stimmung auf und gehört hier einfach nicht hin. --kaʁstnDisk/Cat15:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Die Unterstellung, ich hätte das Bild übersättigt ist ebenso unzutreffend wie es fragwürdig ist, für ein 26 Megapixel aufgelöstes Bild ein geringes Rauschen (das zudem behebbar wäre) als Kontra anzuführen. Dass alchemist nach ausgerechnet nach meiner Ansprache hier mit einem Kontra aufschlägt ist keine Unterstellung, mein guter Carschten, sondern für jeden ersichtlich. --Wladyslaw (talk) 15:40, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Maybe a little overexposed. Also maybe of little off for WB. In the end, trivial shot with trivial centered composition and nothing special. - Benh (talk) 09:44, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. Another revenge-voting. Interesting that there this no better picture of this "trivial object". And the picture is not as trivial as Benh thinks because the bollard disturb the tower and the harbour entrance is rather congested with traffic but if you just give out revenge-voting you don't mind about that. --Wladyslaw (talk) 11:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support changing level in order the image to be a little more dark.. and may-be some more space to the right (not being a centered composition) will enhance the image. Ggia (talk) 20:49, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- Correct picture, good enough quality though a bit overexposed for my taste. What I don't like is the composition/framing which seems to isolate the subject from the environment. Overall nothing extraordinary. Alvesgaspar (talk) 21:44, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Agree with Ggia and Alvesgaspar. Can you fix the slight overexposure? Getting more of the RHS would help esp as the shadow is truncated. I appreciate that subjects sometimes have distracting elements nearby which necessitates cropping. However, there's loads of detail in this image which for me helps sway me towards weak support. Colin (talk) 19:05, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Nice colors on the butterfly, good detail level and colors. Lightning a little too harsh for my taste, especially evident in the somewhat busy and distracting background. I find the composition factual, but ordinary. --Slaunger (talk) 20:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- One more tunnel/underground to join the many others nomitated to FPC, some of them promoted. Maybe it is time to innovate, as we are supposed to choose only the very best Commons has to offer. Alvesgaspar (talk) 11:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment how happens to make such a comment when recently you nominated this image [5] which actually is another version of your previous image [6] which is already featured? Ggia (talk) 12:35, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose What I donna understand is why your images have those inconvenient file names, and why this pictures is considered as featured. --Yikrazuul (talk) 18:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose - good quality, QI, but has a weak point which is that the trees in the background distract from the silhouette of the roof/domes. I imagine there is a better angle from which this effect would not occur. --ELEKHHT22:29, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- A valued image, yes, but not good enough for a FP. Considering the controlled conditions, image quality should be flawless, which is not. Despite the small aperture of F/20 (I suppose this is not a focus bracketing) part of the image is out of focus (or unsharp due to difraction?). I don't like the white background either. Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:21, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support high EV, high quality and high resolution, white background it is ok for use in wikipedia (wikipedia already has white background). Ggia (talk) 14:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support I think the scan could be better still, with more effort in removing dust, etc and handling the dynamic range. Don't see anything wrong with the crop. The lighting on the forehead is bright but presumably designed to be similar to movie studio lighting. Colin (talk) 22:20, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Sorry, I don't see the stitch error. Where exactly is it? Norbert Nagel
Support I find minor reason to oppose for these stitching errors.. considering the difficult lighting and exposure time for each image that this pano is made of. Ggia (talk) 10:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- Yes, it is a beautiful building and a very nice picture. But not comparable with our best night views, in my opinion. See, for example, this one, this one and this one, and compare the image quality and detail. I don't like the noisy sky and tight crop at the bottom right either. Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:31, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak oppose Nice composition and the crepuscular rays are nicely caught. Due to the difficult lightning conditions and huge dynamic range, it is difficult to get good photographic quality, but even considering that I think the overall photographic quality - especially the detail level - is not quite on par with FP.
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Oppose There's no fault, and if I had to mention one, it would be lighting which doesn't really emphasize the relief volume. But in the end, it's just a trivial studio shot of another shell. Maybe have value, but not here (in FP section) to me. - Benh (talk) 10:01, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak support The shot is fantastic, like the colors. But I think there's some over processing here and there. There is a noticeable halo between the chest of the animal and the background. That happens when one adds too much filling light. The background has chromatic noise too. --Paolo Costa (talk) 03:08, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- Almost there, but I don't like the too shallow dof and the obvious noise in the darker areas and background. In my opinion it doesn't compare favourably with our best bird images despite the expensive gear. Alvesgaspar (talk) 11:31, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CommentIn this great image do you find noise in the dark areas as a major problem for opposing? if this image is not great as FPC which image is? Ggia (talk) 12:27, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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CommentJacopo188 provided some more info on my talk page and I followed that up with a quick google. Would love to see a photo showing both the male and female knocker on the same door, something like [7] or [8]. A good quality photo with both knockers genders will definitely have value, illustrate a rather unique cultural custom and be featureable. A single knocker on it's own however is just half the story and not very interesting. --NJR_ZA (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question - How does that work? Are there different knockers for men and woman. If so, a quality photo showing both would definately be featurable. --NJR_ZA (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Info This one was for men (hammer shape), another one for women (ring shape). They were usually installed on two different parts of door, so a quality picture can not show details of bot. See this. --Monfie (talk) 12:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- interesting photo of a fairly ordinary object. It makes you wonder about the handle, its history, what was the world like during the time of its crafter.. -- One, please.( Thank you.)18:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support aesthetically I would prefer the bird to have more space to the right side.. not being in the center.. but the subject is nice. Ggia (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Poor white balance, poor quality. Hummingbirds tend to hang still in the air (it is in their nature), so easy snap. พ.s.11:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I agree they tend to hang still in the air, but only for very shorts period of time! I spend five afternoons just getting this running around like crazy. I felt like being in constant slow-motion as compared to the very rapid movements of the Humminbird. I know I am an inexperienced birds photographer, but easy - far from for me at least:-) --Slaunger (talk) 21:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The trick is patience, a tripod and ideally a remote for you camera. Hummingbirds tend to hover at the same spots again and again (a bit like dragonflies or hoverflies). Leave the camera on manual focus, wait and shoot. The only hard parts are the location and the patience... พ.s.07:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Harsh lighting. Composition needs space to the right. Strongly oppose the crude background noise removal by nominator - this has blurred the edges of the subject and existing noise wasn't intrusive. Suggest either restoring original or else using better software/technique to remove background noise, ideally from the original RAW. Colin (talk) 22:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose I have no problem with the curvature; it does seem more pronounced than one would expect from the curvature of the earth alone, but may simply be due to local geography. Unfortunately this is not FP quality. Severe stitching errors, dust/water mark on bottom left corner, chromatic aberration and I suspect not the best composition that the location had to offer. If you do however have the opportunity to photograph there again, please do. The location can definitely make for an excellent panorama. --NJR_ZA (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- It is a nice idea but the choice of butterflies seems more or less random to be, both aesthetically and biologically (that is, in which the families/species are concerned). Also, the poster is way too small when compared with our FPs of the same type and considering the number of images it contains. Please check this poster (not a FP); sorry to show my own picture but it is the only example with butterflies that I know of. Alvesgaspar (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The file page description is inaccurate as it only mentions that it is composed of photos from Fir0002. But a photo from Richard Bartz is also there and at least one other creator. Moreover, I think there is a licensing problem. I have opened a DR to get that discussed in parallel. --Slaunger (talk) 20:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I do not see a specific point in making this collage of butterfly FPs. I think the images have more value individually, where they are also available in higher resolution. The white background commonality is nice though, and the only place where I see a coherent idea in the composition.--Slaunger (talk) 20:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info Sky was pretty much like that: I had good colors, a mix of after sunset lights, the city lights, and the lightnings reflecting on the clouds. I don't like oversaturating either. I agree about composition, but I didn't want to crop too much sky which is the main subject here.
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Oppose -- What is the subject of the photograph: the building at right or the yard in the center? And what is the purpose of the extreme distortion? Frankly, I see no encyclopaedic or aesthetical value in the picture. Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:25, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment I have introduced Eddie to Commons, and he has provided the photo in higher resolution and with less cropping -- perfect IMO. I am providing a link to this discussion to Eddie, and he will be taking note of any comments being made. Feel free to ask him any questions, and be nice to him. :) russavia (talk) 20:45, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would somewhat disagree. The "tons" of photos on a.net are not nessarily 1) available in required resolution; 2) cropped in such a way that makes them suitable for FP on Commons; 3) freely licenced; and 4) most importantly, available on Commons. russavia (talk) 23:00, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yann, could you perhaps drop a note for Eddie on his talk page. He isn't going to be online until Sunday (I think he said) -- at least then he should receive notification on email. russavia (talk) 23:00, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support for its category this image has high quality and it is featurable. More space to the right (may-be by cloning job) can enhance the image.. not being centred and being a little bit more balanced. Ggia (talk) 08:13, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose many small things add up: bit too tight crop on the right, airline name obscured, uninteresting background. Good quality and useful image but not FP for me. --ELEKHHT12:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support - As a significantly important bridge in Mexico the photo has Value. Detail on the cuttings that had to be made to build a road like this contributes further to the value of the image. Including the crossroad in the composition to frame the bottom of the image is unusual, but not distracting. Adjusting white balance and/or contrast might improve the image further, but personally I prefer the natural look. --NJR_ZA (talk) 12:15, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support I find this one quite good even though I somewhat dislike the railing stuff and edges on the foreground in the picture. But many times I've been in the same situation (with reference to these foreground things...) so I know how challenging it is to find the best spot. --Ximonic (talk) 19:17, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose The subject in itself is rather interesting. However, the overall image quality is not on par with FP quality. Especially, the grass in the lower left section of the image, which looks very odd, as if the photo is both oversaturated and excessive noise reduction has been applied. I'm sorry, but I think it will be difficult getting FPs with that camera. --Slaunger (talk) 21:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose - nice composition, but I think this image is too technically weak to be a featured picture. The fish is not very sharp, and there is some chromatic noise. --Xijky (talk) 20:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Non appealing composition (although I don't know how else I would have shot it, maybe closer framing?) and harsh lit subject. - Benh (talk) 09:51, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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This is a close-up focusing on the yellow parts of the shells. The blue and purple part of a shell in the background lies deep and is further away outside of the focus, only the yellow point of the shell is high and in focus. --Michael Gäbler (talk) 22:03, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Ok, Imo the hole shell should be in focus. For the rest it's a very nice image with the colours and the water vs no water parts Mvg, Basvb (talk) 22:23, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- it is in its natural habitat I guess, but I think more could've been done to make the shell stand out. It looks like a sad, undignified piece of beach litter in this. -- One, please.( Thank you.)13:33, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- Good quality but I don't like the composition, with the buildings centered and all the open space around. Also the geometry is weird: the cathedral seems distorted and tilted to the left. Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:08, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the image has high quality but with the distortion is not featurable.. per Alvesgaspar.. if the distortion can be corrected I will change my vote to a support one. Ggia (talk) 00:24, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Something strange is happening here. The perspective seems distorted, but is actually not: the verticals are really vertical. Apparently, perspective correction is not always a good solution. Question: was this perhaps made by stitching two or more shots together? For the rest I like the image very much. Light, colors and composition are good. The open space around the building doesn't bother me, on the contrary (sorry, Alvesgaspar!): it shows the cathedral and its surroundings as they really are. -- MJJR (talk) 20:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Interesting story behind the picture which is the subject of this image, but I'd rather see the picture which is hanged out itself. - Benh (talk) 11:42, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- The light comming from under the left corner of the image distracts a little.
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Support -- I would have preferred this as a landscape shot, but quality is acceptable and it has a bit of WOW factor setting it apart from other bird photos. Not many photos of bird colonies on commons and none currently featured. --NJR_ZA (talk) 17:02, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral At first, when I just saw it in preview size at the nomination page: I thought: what is the big deal of a few birds flying around, and how can that be a colony (at first sight the lower section of the photo appeared to be rubble). It was surely enlightening to open it in full resolution and see that the rubble was a huge amount of birds on the ground. What a massive amount. Anyway, it has some wow, but technically it is not very good. Motion blur, rather low detail level, soft focus and flat light. Thus, I cannot support. I actually once took a photo of a gull colony in Greenland, which is in fact currently featured, but the colony part is probably not the primary asset of that photo . --Slaunger (talk) 20:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose deficient restoration (especially if looking at the skies and the lighter parts of the building), lacking sharpness, no documentation of the restoration process. regards, PETER WEISTALK07:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, you added a template for retouched images. Several dust spots and stains are still visible (darkish dots in the sky and the the lighter parts of the building the pavement and other areas). Since the digitisation process can not transfer the original sharpness to full extent, it's common to slightly sharpen the image after the initial restoration process, which has not been done either in this case. If you care about thorough restorations have a look in Katrin Eismann's Adobe Photoshop Restoration & Retouching, Ctein's Digital Photo Restoration or similar books on the topic. Regards, PETER WEISTALK11:59, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I could try to make further corrections. However I am not sure how much restoration needs to be done. It is an old photo, so it seems OK to me if there are still a few dots. Is there another template for restoration? I am not aware of that. Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:25, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with the nominator regarding the atmosphere of the wild west. It makes the photo valuable. However, I also agree with Peter Weis regarding the need for cleanup. However, even when (if) that is done I find the crop at the top (roof of building) and bottom (cart) unfortunate. I think that could have been taken care of back in 1972:-) --Slaunger (talk) 20:43, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The framing feels unnatural, the character of these places is horizontal not vertical, yet despite the portrait format the top and bottom are still cropped. --ELEKHHT22:20, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support There is some noise in the sky, but I think it is a very good photo of an exceptional event. I tried to remove some noise, but I did not get any valuable result. Maybe someone else can do it? -- Yann (talk) 20:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment let stop these comments about noise (ie. great images by magnum photographers are full of noise) and lets see the EV value and the general composition.. I believe that this image [9] from that fire is more descriptive, more EV and better that this one... it is from the same photographer.. this image is also nice [10]Ggia (talk) 23:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I could not agree more with you about value vs. noise, but some influent people here seem to think otherwise (see current discussion about so-called "careless reviews"). So what do you suggest? Should I nominate these as alternatives? Thanks for your comments, Yann (talk) 04:45, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the image you propose has the slightest chance to be promoted. Personally, I find that it is of inferior quality (blown out sky, cables, statue in the foreground, etc.). Anyway, the debates and votes in FPC are getting less and less constructive, and more and more aggressive, hence my withdrawal. Yann (talk) 16:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please enlighten me if I'm wrong but the only user addressing the subject "noise" in that discussion was Ggia. May I ask how the conclusion was reached that some influent people here think otherwise (and otherwise how, by the way) ? Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:10, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that these kind of gratuitous comments contribute to the quality of the revieweing process or to the harmony among reviewers. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 16:38, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In this dialog I just proposed that there is another alternative version of this event, with high EV that beside the noise it is featurable. I think that my comment contribute to the quality and the reviewing process and harmony. I don't vote neither with support or oppose and I am waiting for the nominatior to change mind and nominate the other version which I indicated. I just mentioned, if the image is so low quality due to noise.. there is always the FPX template, for these cases. Ggia (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- A nice photo but not a great photo. Aesthetics first: like sunsets most fire shots at night are beautiful but few are exceptional. That is the case here, where the poor image quality (excessive noise) is not mitigated by extraordinary beauty and composition (in this case, I don't like the tigh framing with cropped flames). Value second: being a close-up is detrimetal to enc value, as the subject is not easily recognized. Also, a day shot wouldn't be as spectacular but would show more details of the event. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 10:03, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info Considering the size of the painting (221 x 331 cm), the resolution is quite low, and the image does not allow us to see how the painter applied the paint. When viewed at high resolution, the image is grainy and inadequately sharp. It looks nice in preview, but less so upon magnification. (Original nomination)
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Info For those who don't fathom what a periproctal cone is: it's some kind of constantly pulsating anus - in the picture it is extended. --Quartl (talk) 17:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support and Question I don't see why not: in my opinion it is featurable. Personally, I would've liked the "pulsting anus" (I laughed a lot here; I had at first sight thought it was an eye, until I read the description), to be less centered, I think a little crop of the bottom part would have been so much better. But I love the diagonal lines, and the other lines which direct the eye to the center. Color is nice, quality is very good given it was taken underwater (am I wrong?), and if it was taken underwater I'm guessing flash light was unavoidable. Only question is, what are those blue glows?? Are those a reflection from the flash? Does the urchin glow in the sunlight? There are no self-light-producing urchins that I know... (?) --Paolo Costa (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The picture was taken in an aquarium with dim light. The species has five white spots around the periproct of which three are visible in the image. These spots are a major distinguishing feature of the species with respect to other species in the genus Diadema. The blue spots are light-reflecting cells (chromatophores). --Quartl (talk) 07:22, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- A nice house and mood, but all the sky is blown due to the excessive dynamic range. Two possibilities: underexpose the image and correct it later (the cheap solutions); and use HDR: take a series of images with different exposures and let the software combine them. Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:05, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support newer, higher quality nomination of an old nomination (the first nomination of this image was not nominated by me and the quality was lower). There is some noise in the image (for people that use oppose votes for noise reasons without looking the overall content). -- Ggia (talk) 17:28, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You mention it's a panoramic picture, so is it downsampled?
I don't really care the downsampling issue, but I'm surprised the noise is so visible at ISO400 for a D700. So second question is did you play with curves ? exposures blending ? Or just used a polarizer filter?
And the thumbnail on the Image page doesn't reflect the colours at all (MediaWiki has some serious issues with thumbnails cache management it seems...). - Benh (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Info No, it is not a stitched panorama.. panoramic here means panoramic (view from the top). Polarized filter is used during shooting the image, denoising algorithm has been applied a little bit to the sky (also to the part of the mountains to upper left), the image was a little tilt and I correct it (this is why the size is not the original size of the D700 resolution). Noise is due to the 400ASA, and probably because I was using "dlighing" (digital lighting) feature of Nikon camera (I am not sure if Dlighting was applied into the raw NEF file). This jpg is exported from the NEF file. Also cloning job has been applied to the lower right part (the cables are not visible any more). I see the problem with the thumbnails.. strange.. isn't it? it keeps the thumbnail of the old image.. Ggia (talk) 21:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the details (D lighting combined with polarizer explains a lot the unusual lighting). Yes the thumbnails issue is strange. Cache aren't refreshed properly. I thought the issue was fixed, but looks like not. - Benh (talk) 21:43, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For settings, they might be inappropriate, but I think the D-lighting thing requires bump in ISO in order to work (maybe author could confirm) - Benh (talk) 11:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How can I know that? I remember that in that trip (that I shot this photo) the dlighting feature of Nikon was on.. And in my recent photos I don't use any more dlighting. I usually increase iso settings when I use polarizer.. @Carschten Probably the settings ISO 400, 1/640s and f/5,6 are not the optimal (it will be better idea 1/200 with another diafragm ie. f/11), but the quality is so bad in order to oppose? Did you consider the content / EV of this image during you vote? Ggia (talk) 18:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You could know by reading the manual. On the Canons SLR, highlight tone priority, which I believe does something similar, shrinks the ISO range to 200-6400. - Benh (talk) 23:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose I really don't see what's the point here? I don't think it shows the most interesting part of the hotel, and my eyes are driven to the car instead. That post on the foreground is really unfortunate to me. - Benh (talk) 09:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This image would work better if it was called "Luxury in Paris", I guess, being a scene at Place Vendôme, with that car in front of a famous jewellery store... I rather like the blue mood, by the way. --Myrabella (talk) 11:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support - please bear in mind that this painting is only 8 cm by 6 cm, so the resolution is actually very high despite the comparatively small file size.-- Xijky (talk) 11:18, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think this is one of the nominations, which may not look like much in preview, until seen in full resolution. I like it and I am impressed by the technical quality (especially considering the size). The texture of the painted surface is reproduced very well IMO. I can almost feel the texture on the surface. On close inspection, the upper right section of the photo seems softer that the other parts. Perhaps just slightly out-of-focus? Or is there another explanation? --Slaunger (talk) 20:44, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The very upper right is indeed slightly out of focus, but as it only affects the frame, not the painting itself, I don't think it's a serious problem. --Xijky (talk) 21:04, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Thanks for the explanation. I agree it is a mitigatable problem, as it is only in the frame. I was just curious if there was another explanation. Now I know a little bit about the miniature painter, Peter Oliver. Thanks. --Slaunger (talk) 21:17, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Beautiful shot, it really is. Maybe the background wasn't the best but resolution is great. Anyways, I need a macro lens, that's definitely my next buy... but I'm still undecided about which one. --Paolo Costa (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For Nikon, Tokina ATX-Pro 100 mm macro is an excellent choice if you don't want to spend a fortune. I use mine also for other purposes (eg panos), as the optical quality is very good. Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:52, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Jovian, you forgot to sign your vote. By the way, I picked a lower value on purpose, since I knew some would oppose if the flower wouldn't be on focus, but thanks! --Paolo Costa (talk) 16:37, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm not sure I'm seeing exactly what you're talking about (if you could put an annotation on there then I'd know where to look), but if it's what I think you're talking about then it's clusters/lines of cumulus clouds. Ks0stm(T•C•G)17:18, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The white features can't be anything but clouds, as the wave patterns can't be seen from this distance. As for the regular curved bands, they are probably scanning artifacts created by the sensor that captured the image. A pity, because this is a superb picture, at least as good as our present FPAlvesgaspar (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose - I like the idea, real people going about their lives, but the composition is all wrong (man behind cut in half) and the overall image quality is low, very shallow DOF and focus point just in front of the subject. In a photo like this, where a human is directly in the path of a locomotive I would expect the locomotive to be clear as well. --NJR_ZA (talk) 15:42, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your review doesn't make sense. The subject is the child, not the locomotive. Therefore, it is quite sensible to focus on the child. And the man behind who walk away indifferent to the child, reinforce the impression of abandon and despair. Yann (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I am torn. On one side, I really like the setting. The adult which seems to ignore, the train and the expression on the street childs face, and the rubbish. Maybe I think the child is a bit too centered in the photograph. I am not sure. I also like the shallow DOF. It sets the street child in focus and clearly identifies the subject. Reminds of some of the excellent poverty photography by Tomascastelazo, like File:Viejita.jpg in its ability to express the social isolation and hierarchy of the poor. However, the technical quality is far very from FP level. Lots of noise, unsharp focus on the boy, and lots of CA. I think some degree of technical imperfection is mitigatable given the location and the moment, but here the problems are so large I cannot fully support. --Slaunger (talk) 21:59, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- I have to agree with the opposers though I like the photo a lot. Would probably support if it weren't for the cropped man in the background. The unfocused train doesn't bother me though. What I don't see as evident in the photo is abandon and despair. Alvesgaspar (talk) 10:02, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, without the man it would be much better, you still have those two other children giving the walking away effect then. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 12:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree about composition faults and technically it isn't outstanding. This is an "easy to take" photo in that there are millions of street children. Search Google Images for "street child" and you'll find 3/4 million images, many better than this. Colin (talk) 19:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support I forgive blurred background and/or distrubing objects in a picture like this one, where a different culture is depicted, amidst a little more chaos than first world is used too. It gives it the realistic feel. I really don't care about the train. But the cut-in-half-person, damn, it really screws it up for me, therefore I cannot fully support. A pity. --Paolo Costa (talk) 19:32, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose should be rotated to be symetric, see lower baseline and the arc, colors to sunny (even if realistic). The cross itself schould be centered. --Joergens.mi (talk) 06:59, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose I'm sorry, but I see nothing in that portrait which makes it stand out. It has a "zoo" feel in my opinion (maybe because of the dark background). It's detailed, but any camera is able to achieve this nowadays. - Benh (talk) 19:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree with Benh and Quartl. The other picture is superior -- lovely pattern on the back, much nicer background, and better crop of the body. Colin (talk) 22:18, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support It was eye catching enough for me to review (I'm a fan of panos after all), and I see no fault. Not a huge huge wow for me, but it depicts the subject well in my opinion. - Benh (talk) 19:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- I'm also a fan of beach panoramas, especially with people. But I don't like the cropped objects in the foreground and the background is too blurred. Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support I'm not a fan of trains, but you really find a way to make them interesting through great compositions, as this one. --ELEKHHT12:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't agree with the blown snow; there are few pixels that have one or more of the color channels at 255, and most of those are not in the snow. Therefore, at least technically, the picture should be fine (of course, you may still dislike the way it looks on your monitor). --Kabelleger (talk) 15:58, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Snow is white, on a sunny day it's going to look blown as a given, unless you intentionally underexpose the picture or use some trick, but then you might get gray snow blegh. -- One, please.( Thank you.)19:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose I don't mind the blown snow, but I don't think this is the best way for an encyclopedia, to depict a train, in all that mist from the snow. --Paolo Costa (talk) 19:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's not the best picture to depict the type of loc or train, but it illustrates very well the harsh conditions in which rail transport still functions and continues to perform. -- MJJR (talk) 20:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Further to my comments above, I agree with that as well. I like the visualised force of the train, and how yet in the same time the landscape dominates the image (after all the train is just a little worm drilling its track through nature). Plenty of encyclopaedic value, and distinct from the two other FPs of train in the snow promoted last year. --ELEKHHT
Support I hadn't seen it that way, living in a country where it never snows. But it must be really a problem for railways, and this picture depicts it perfectly, therefore I changed my mind per MJJR and Elekhh! --Paolo Costa (talk) 01:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support -- Excellent! Could somebody please forward this picture to the Dutch railways, who are able to create chaos with just a few centimeters of snow? MartinD (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support Well, in term of "excessive image manipulation" we have had much much worst than this. I don't think this is a valid opposition. Yann (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I don't know about color manipulation. It looks oversaturated, but the animal looks pretty colorful too. Anyways, even if the picture looks good aesthetically, I don't think that's the best angle to ilustrate this species in an encyclopedia. --Paolo Costa (talk) 19:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info created, uploaded and nominated by Carschten. The picture show the entrepreneurial villa Haus Hartenfels in Duisburg (North Rhine-Westphalia), an impressive building of the industrial history at the Ruhr. Please notice the building is usually not publicly accessible, and the picture was made at the German part of European Heritage Days (an exception). That's the reason for so many people, but I hope they are not too disturbing. --kaʁstnDisk/Cat16:56, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Maybe some other light would have been better, but as mentioned in the preface I couldn't wait for an other. But I don't think the lightning conditions were un-featurable. With such a cloudy weather you will never have harsh shadows and the difficulty to take a attractive photo is higher. With sunshine, everybody can take a photo (figuratively). Hm, the wow effect. IMHO it is an impressive building which is really remarkable for the region and its history. Comparing with your images and all the places you already have been, it isn't incomprehensible you cannot see a huge wow factor here, but it's a bit unfair to me, too; it's difficult to compare such different places (but I don't know how you consider what's special to you). Or perhaps you have tips for me how to take a photo of such a building in such a situation with more WOW? Thanks. --kaʁstnDisk/Cat21:38, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned by Slaunger, I understand you couldn't do better. But mitigating reasons don't always mean we can feature it. I have similar pictures taken during similar events in France, that I won't even upload to Wikipedia. As for the wow effect, it has lot of subjective part, so I can't really tell. But usually, I'd say it's a matter of shooting from right angle, and waiting for the right lighting. And IMHO not everyone can do well on sunny day. Sun doesn't mean featurable to me (I've often opposed based on harsh flat lighting). - Benh (talk) 00:08, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I understand, that given the circumstances, this is probably as good as you could do, and there were not any other chances. So I would say that it is very valuable for that reason, given that normally there is no access for the public to this place. Regrettably I really find the lightning conditions dull. I agree on your comment that everyone could do well on a sunny day. The (unavaoidable) crowd is also distracting, and I agree with Ggia about especially one of the persons, which could perhaps be cloned out to improve the situation a little. But all in all, due to you unluck with the cirucmstances, I must oppose, sorry. --Slaunger (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I withdraw my nomination.
I discuss with two experts from the German Wikipedia and we try to correct some things (so far as necessary) and maybe I'll renominate the picture after a while (if I think it makes sense). --kaʁstnDisk/Cat20:30, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose high EV beside the distortion of this extreme panorama case.. but the reason that I oppose is because I don't like the fake sky. I will change my vote to a support one, if a new version (high res) less processed, with more natural colors will be uploaded. Ggia (talk) 14:34, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- Not the best composition and image quality. The unfocused foreground is too imposing and the image is unsharp and noisy. I wonder what the reason was for this weird exposure choice: automatic mode, probably. Alvesgaspar (talk) 21:59, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Well since no one takes the time to review... I'm in. It looks tilted, but maybe you'd justify as per your above nom. I don't like the composition and I can't really identify what you aimed at showing here (I mean it feels you just grabbed the shot while passing by, but it's personal point of view). The light is a little too harsh to my tastes as well. - Benh (talk) 21:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose -- The image is underexposed (easily corrected with Photoshop or similar). I also don't like the flat ligting (sun high in the sky and behind the camera), the shooting position (too close and from below) and the tight crop around the building. Alvesgaspar (talk) 19:38, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose The historical centre of Quito, which I know personally and appreciate so much, appears very attractive to photographers. Unfortunately this picture has some major problems: perspective distortion at both sides (e.g., see the basilica at the upper right), an uninteresting gable at the lower right and unattractive roofs that cover a major part of the image, and chromatic aberration (violet and green fringes). --Cayambe (talk) 18:28, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This picture was never intended to be considered FP. It was simply a snapshot from my hotel room, which gives a different perspective on Quito. --S23678 (talk) 15:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment generally nice composition, high quality/nice colors.. something that I don't like is the position of the yellow (clock) balloon.. if it would have been a little to the right the general composition would be better (I added a note on the image). Ggia (talk) 12:55, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think it's a very nice idea, but unlike Ggia, I think the left ballon kills it. Has it been a bit lower (or not here?) we would have had a triangle with the main subject at its top. - Benh (talk) 13:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose I wouldn't be sad if this is promoted because it's a beautiful colorful subject. But I don't like front flash lighting as it's the case here. I shows with reflection and dark background (f/11.0 was probably too narrow an aperture for a brighter background). - Benh (talk) 10:28, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Major geometric distortion. Unfortunate composition and framing : leftmost tree cutoff at the top, a wedge of asphalt at the rightmost bottom... Plus the shadows are somewhat too dark. --MAURILBERT(discuter)12:55, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose I can find no reason to believe that it's noteworthy in any way and for a non-noteworthy subject the picture is by far not exciting enough ("no wow", as others would say). --Kabelleger (talk) 22:03, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support A good RamMan photo. Good composition, colors, bokeh, pretty. I like the speckled(?) diffuse background which makes the sunflower stand out. However, also an easy shot of a common object, thus, the crop of the leaf to the right and the twig in the lower left corner are distracting elements, which could have been easily avoided. Moreover, the restrictive GFDL 1.2 only license makes the photo of limited use and value for Wikimedia projects and elsewhere. --Slaunger (talk) 20:34, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ahm, It was actually my intention to oppose, but somehow I placed a support template there. Sorry about that. However, instead of changing to oppose, I will just abstain from voting instead. Concerning GFDL 1.2 only. Yes, I am aware that we have several images with that license featured. Most of them (like your example) promoted prior to the license migration to CC, which a few highly profiled contributors on Commons opted out on, including Ram-Man and Fir0002. Since then, the trend has been that an increaing number of Wikimedia projects do not allow GFDL 1.2 only license as it imposes too many practical barrier for especially commercial reuse. Thus, an image has to be truly outstanding for me to support if it is GFDL 1.2 only. Say, if Afghan Girl was released under GFDL 1.2 only, I would support, but not for a sunflower, which can be redone easily. Moreover, I think the license is often overlooked in the review process, or some reviewers are not aware of the limited (current) value of GFDL 1.2 images. --Slaunger (talk) 07:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't a rule for FP to disallow GFDL 1.2 only images! The GFDL 1.2 only license is allowed on Commons. Also it is OK for all the Wikipedias! --Alchemist-hp (talk) 13:30, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly, it is allowed on Commons and on FP, but I think it is fair to say that a GFDL only license also devaluates an image due to the cumbersome conditions of reuse. To quote from Commons:Licensing:
...The GFDL is not practical for photos and short texts, especially for printed media, because it requires that they be published along with the full text of the license. Thus, it is preferable to publish the work with a dual license, adding to the GFDL a license that permits use of the photo or text easily; a Creative Commons license, for example. ...
Alchemist is correct in pointing out that it is allowed to use the GFDL only licensed photos on Wikipedia, but local file upload of GFDL only images is deprecated in several, the English one included. --Slaunger (talk) 21:58, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why do some photographers use the GFDL 1.2 only license? That is the main question! Do you work on your job also for US$ 0. or for 0,00 Euro or for 0. DK? I think we still need the CC-BY-NC-ND license for more better images. That's simply my opinion. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 23:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- The composition is unbalanced. It would look nicer to me if a lot of the empty space on the left was cropped out. As is it's like the flower is trying to compete for the attention of the observer against something in the background. -- One, please.( Thank you.)18:46, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Sorry, but the composition isn't all that great, there appears to be a lot of distortion in this photo, it is blurry, and it appears the camera was bumped or shifted during exposure. A good start to night photography though. --TheHighFinSpermWhale16:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info created by Ludo - uploaded by Ludo - nominated by Ludo. I made this photo during a cycle race in Grenoble velodrome. I've removed few artefacts, one light and ropes. You can see, the first one here. -- Ludo (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support \includepackage{Alvesgaspar}, plus we need to encourage beautiful action photographs, as they are especially difficult to produce. -- Rama (talk) 19:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Huge wow mitigates lots of noise due to ISO800. But given the lightning conditions, you probably did not have any other options - except perhaps a slightly longer exposure time, but that is hard to fiddle with, when the action is happening, and it would be at the risk of introducing motion blur. So all, in all I think it is OK with the ISO. The light is very good at highlighting the muscles, veines and expression of concentration of the performaing artists. Impressive and good composition - if only the pole had been on the other side of the leg it would have been perfect. --Slaunger (talk) 20:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. For ISO, the place was very dark. Before this performing, I was at ISO 3200 for the cycling race. For these guys, there is more direct light. So I reduce ISO. But artists moved, so I must keep a good speed. 1/640s, I think it's good for this action shoot. Ludo (talk) 20:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Info & Support A bit noisy, but given the lighting conditions it is acceptable. I was not satisfied with the cloning job so I reworked from the original and uploaded a new version. --Jovian Eyestorm03:34, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment I do not feel qualified to evaluate things like trustworthyness of the colors, but I get the impression of a valuable work of high technical quality. --Slaunger (talk) 20:11, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose CA in the trees. The foreground vegetation and middle building are rather mushy rather than clear. Right-hand building appears to be leaning. Colin (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment very poetic, minimal and has a nice form (the absent of the colors make it looking like a b&w image - and I like that) - but this image has low EV IMO. Ggia (talk) 17:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the composition is feature-worthy, yet the lacking crisp sharpness and missing metadata make me oppose. did you perform any digital enhancement? regards, PETER WEISTALK22:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Info -- The Exif file was eliminated by the noise-removing application (Neat Image). I have included in the image file the exposure information I was able to recover. Sharpness and contrast were enhanced as the original was extremly soft due to lack of light and haze/spray in the air (a storm was going on). Alvesgaspar (talk) 23:02, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Good visualization of a storm. I like the composition, and the large swells apparent in the background. I think that maybe your noise reduction tool has done more harm than good in this case. Patches of the rocks looks odd or overprocessed. Maybe it would have been better or at least more true or "raw" with all the haze. --Slaunger (talk) 23:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question Hmmm it is beautiful and very poetic indeed, but with such uninteresting light and color conditions I would go B&W. Is the vignetting not corrected on purpose? --Paolo Costa (talk) 01:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support I like this seascape. It shows the darkness by the sky on the stormy day and the liveliness by the sea on the stormy day. The water is not only gray or even white, it has also colours like orange and a greeny-gray. This orange is also on the top of the landscape. A black-and-white-image would miss this colouring. The sea is powerful with large breakers. I don't miss a full sharpness. The image is coherent and (like Ggia said) very poetic and minimal. --Michael Gäbler (talk) 00:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose lacks any wow, very dull photograph that fails convey the subject, I do note the colour aspets as interesting but they dont hold either a significant position(see rule of thirds) or visual proportion. Also nothing has changed since the previous nomination 10 months ago. Gnangarra12:01, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose low EV, low wow factor. We have seen much better und more exciting lake pictures (even by Ximonic). I'm also not sure what's the main motive (the greens at left, the boat, the way, the lake, the mountains?). --kaʁstnDisk/Cat18:53, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support I decided to upload a high resolution of this monument, since this current nomination [14] is not featurable. I have to mention that the main subject in this photo are the tombs inside the rocks and not the rock itself. This "extreme" panorama gives you a good overview of the whole archaeological place. -- Ggia (talk) 16:26, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Impressive, highly valuable. Nice to see something from Iran. I have scrutinized the photo for stitching errors. None found. I would still like to see you upload and nominate one of your excellent peoples photographs (like from the refugee camp in Greece I saw a while ago, can't find it again, made a big impression on me) from one of your nice B/W film cameras. Just as a variation to the panos. --Slaunger (talk) 20:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments.. this image with the immigrants that you like [15] may-be it will be used by amnesty international for a campaign about refugees. The fatal problem of all my b&w images is that they are shot by b&w film / 400ASA - and the grainy images in FPC usually have no success. Ggia (talk) 22:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the sky is posterized and a dark aura surrounds the cliff. Aslo I'm uncertain about the projection, as it's difficult to imagine how it actually looks like, if the cliff is curved or not. Also the crop on the left and right is a bit tight. →AzaToth21:05, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How can I do that (add the field of view)? @AzaToth if these posterized spots around the cliff are so fatal problem for the image I understand you oppose (for your information I cleaned some dust spots around the sky and I applied there a de-noising) - about tight crop I don't agree - it is already an extreme panorama. About the orientation look the street how it is curved and zoom over the image with the map. Ggia (talk) 22:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- Very good image quality and obvious ev. It could be a great photo if more space were given around the subject and, preferably, the whole geological structure were shown, as in the nomination below. As is it looks like caged. Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Nice texture and resolution, but I also feel the crop is too tight. This gets more evident (to me) when you compare with the other nom, which has a nice composition (but quality issue, and over "HDR" use). Adding FOV is also a benefit. Description looks a nice place to me for that (I sometime do that). - Benh (talk) 09:59, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment no HDR has been used... these images are single shot (no combination of images into a HDR). In the shadows I used masks and increased the lumnosity.. if this seems like a HDR effect. The strong blue color is due to the altitue (iran is on a plateu ~1200-1600m and here are dry weather conditions). Ggia (talk) 12:52, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You understood well ;) Sorry if it wasn't clear enough. BTW, I far much prefer the light and deep blue sky of your picture. - Benh (talk) 18:13, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Due to the comments.. I uploaded a new version.. a little more panoramic. I cannot make a more panoramic than this one.. Next time I will visit Iran I will try to get an even more panoramic image. Ggia (talk) 19:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support I finally had the time to open this large file and review. As for the other file, crop is very tight for my taste. But this one is pretty good. The view is impressive, the stitching is good, the quality is good. Featurable (I'd rather have this one featured, but both are fine). Very educative, congrats. --Paolo Costa (talk) 19:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral too tight crop and harsh light. Needs also a cropping at left (IMHO) and right (just a few pixels). Sky underexposed. But a very nice place, documentation, very good overall (esp. EV), but not good enough for a promotion and too good for declining. --kaʁstnDisk/Cat15:24, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Agree with Carschten. Plus, the composition doesn't work for me. It isn't clear what the ruins are or why we are looking at them through woodland.Colin (talk) 21:28, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your interest. Maybe you looked to the flagpole, you saw, the flagpole is not vertial. Yes, the flagpole stands not vertical, Sylt is a very stormy island. But every building is vertical. See the edges by the two buildings and the observation deck by the lighthouse. --Michael Gäbler (talk) 19:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have done a slight cw rotation. Feel free to revert it if you don't like it. And Support, I like the composition and quality. --Kabelleger (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Support I think the new framing greatly improves the photo. I don't think it's better than Diliff's but there are pros and cons (lighting, timing, resolution, framing). - Benh (talk) 10:19, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Unattractive sky and blurry lights. Detail too low. Even at screen resolution, Diliffs is a better photo, and only gets better as you explore it. Colin (talk) 19:55, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Responding to comments below re Diliff's. I agree that Diliff's panos are among the best anywhere so not a reasonable bar. I was responding to the peculiar comment that this was better than Diliffs -- I'm struggling to see how. City skylines are relatively easy photos to take (millions of people live in each one so there are lots of opportunities). A stitched pano is also relatively easy these days and doesn't need to cost anything. The photographer here has been unfortunately IMO that atmospheric conditions didn't lend themselves to either an attractive sky or clarity (whereas Diliff's winter snowfall has cleared the atmosphere). Also don't see what being a "one-shot image" has to do with compensating for its weaknesses. If I took a photograph of a beetle with a kit lens rather than a macro, it wouldn't be featured. I'm not saying a stitched pano is essential for a skyline photo, but it would have to be a pretty fantastic image to compensate for the lack of detail. I don't think this one is outstanding. Colin (talk) 19:56, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Info Wow, how many comparisons. Just wanted to make this clear: I personally think Diliff's pano is incredible. That picture is a stitched panorama, an excellent pic no doubt, made of 15 images. That one was taken in late afternoon and in winter. This is a one shot image (may even have its benefits: loads faster, can see metadata for example), was taken at night, in fall. If a city gets featured once, then can't it be featured again? What happens with all the pictures of Toronto skyline? I don't know if it's 100% fair to compare images and say which one is "better" (for both authors): these are different pics. The same happens with the tons of pics dragonflies, BF's, other subjects and repeated animals. I think it would be more fair to judge based on whether one thinks it is a featurable picture, not which one is better. --Paolo Costa (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would suggest not to make comparisons with other people works - I don't find it polite. An image can be different due to many reasons, lighting conditions, different time of the years etc etc. Everyone here has not the last technology full frame sensor and every camera has different image quality. Some people know better image processing and can make the image look better.. Paolo Costa made a good image, with acceptable quality for FPC (according to the support votes).. Giving to his image a FP status Paolo Costa next time will try to nominate another image.. Please do not push commons to the edge that only people with the best sensor and best image processing knowledge should contribute here. A goal here should be, to attract more and more people that are willing to publish high quality and EV images that deserve FP status. Ggia (talk) 20:55, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ggia, if I nominated a FPC and you suggested we should give it a FP to encourage me to upload and nominate more pictures rather than being discouraged, I'd be insulted. As I said, you can create a better pano with the cheapest DSLR and some free software and a little time. No expensive tripods or full frame cameras or L glass necessary. In that regard, city panos are much easier than bird or insect photographs, which to achieve FP require seriously expensive equipment. Can I suggest that perhaps by rejecting this FPC, Paolo Costa might next time try to take a better picture of the same scene. Not all of us react to criticism by giving up. As for making comparisons not being polite, can I point out that the word "finest" requires comparison, if not to similar scenes then to a body of work. FP is not just "Good photographs". Colin (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe that city panos are easier than bird photography or photos of objects shot in studios (ie. shells of Liez or archaeodontosaurus's fossils). For me it is impossible to have access to shells that Liez has access or to Fossils that archaeodontosaurus has. For me is difficult to be in Portugal and make panoramas like the one that Alvesgaspar makes. It is also difficult for me to be in Montreal to make this night shot (that Paolo and Dliff made). For me as a Greek I can get easier a visa to travel in Iran. Some of you.. ie. if you are from USA or Israel it is very hard to travel in Iran. So making a "trivial" pano in Iran not anybody can go and make it. We are all volunteers, we are photographers, we are not earning money contributing with high quality images at commons.. We have to keep FPC community open to newcomers. I don't find either fruitful (I mentioned that it is not polite) in the comments to make comparisons with other photos. Because each photo is different (can have different lighting, different angle of view, can be in different weather condition - time of the year - aesthetically can have different composition-crop) etc. Ggia (talk) 23:48, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We all have our own talents and limitations through circumstances, experience, ability or funds. We should be judging the photograph, not making allowances. One way of judging how easy a photograph is, is to search for it on Google Images. By that measure, your Iran images are rare and valuable whereas Montreal skylines are ten a penny. There are four million people living in and around Montreal. I'd much rather someone told me how to take a better picture next time than told me it was "excellent, considering" or words to that effect. There's always a subjective comparison going on with photographs, otherwise we'd have figured out how to make a computer program to judge. Colin (talk) 08:51, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That's ok guys. You both have valid points. Thanx for the encouragement Ggia. Comparisons may be necessary at some point. Improvement and perfection is always welcome if you want something to be really good. On the other hand, it is, kind of discouraging, to get opposes for sharpness in this case, (I took the shot several times to make sure this didn't happen, even with manual focus), but it's not the end of the world. Putting images to judgment means getting criticized, it's part of it. I don't think I'll take a better shot next time, 'cos I usually don't visit a place twice, so, there will be no next time in Montreal I guess. But rules are rules, if 1/2 of votes are opposes that's it, means I still have to improve. As for the pano thing, I just do not take night panos. That's a personal thing, you may think different. By night, detail is already lost. I take lots of panoramics, just never at night (by pano I mean a multi-shot image). I just wanted to point out that this was not a Diliff Vs Paolo voting. Just a "determine whether you think it's featurable or not" voting. Thanks and have a good day!--Paolo Costa (talk) 16:10, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- After considerable thought. It is an excellent one-shot image that shouldn't be directly compared with a stitched panorama. Anyway, Diliff's panos do not establish a minimum FP thereshold because they are considerably above it, imo. Alvesgaspar (talk) 21:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral In thumbnail, it's really nice. At full resolution I get the feeling that there is a slight misfocus, but then your at f/9...or maybe its the haze! --Jovian Eyestorm00:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support the 7th vote: nice night shot with EV.. keep uploading images that deserve the FP status. I would suggest to increase a little bit the levels of the image in order the image to have some more light (I checked this option in my computer and the image is a little bit better IMO). Ggia (talk) 14:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I know, the view from Mont Royal is always fascinating, even if weather is worse (I was there two times). But this picture has lacking sharpness, overexposured parts and is far away from being exceptional. --Wladyslaw (talk) 21:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose sorry, but why is this image taken by night? The contrast is to large. We only see an overexposed flame and an uninteresting background. This image is more informative and interesting: --Alchemist-hp (talk) 01:12, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The picture was not taken at night, but at 1/4000 of a second at 17:50 in March, hence dark background - that's the only way I could capture the small spinning particles. I also don't know what the 2 above opposes are about... =/ Nikthestoned (talk) 09:28, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Neutral Ok, since no one reviews: I like composition, I think the Ev is high, lighting and colors are nice, but it looks oversaturated, a lot for my taste (look at the greens/yellows, and the red on the flag). The sharpness is not outstanding either. --Paolo Costa (talk) 03:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think the colours are oversaturated. And besides maybe being a bit tilted and needing a lense correction, my eyes can´t find one main motive. -- Avda (talk) 09:48, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Pretty good, but I am missing a clear idea with the composition. Except for the overall slope, what is the subject? The foreground elements are very shadowy and I find it ruins the balance in the photo. --Slaunger (talk) 22:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Question What is the origin of the vertical "fold" (see annotation)? Has the drawing been folded, or is it a scanning or stitching issue? Is it something that can be fixed? --Slaunger (talk) 22:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support @Slaunger: yes, unfortunately the folio was folded. This picture is very nice and interesting (wonderful details of the flags !), probably the best view of this important event of the french history--Jebulon (talk) 23:27, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose lighting in front ot the sculpture's nose is not very nice, the photographer could have move a little to the left and the lighting would have been behind the sculpture. Not optimal light, this image could be shot also during the day-time. Too may elements around the main object (sculpture) make a composition a little bit messy. Ggia (talk) 11:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Funny how different ones' tastes are, especially about day versus evening shots and compositition. I just have a question, because "nice" both has a aesthetic and a moral meaning, do you mean that the streetlight is ugly or that I was spiteful to put it in the composition? V-wolf (talk) 13:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I added some more descriptive notes over your image. I don't have problems with night shots (considering that the image is shot in Sweden which is darker that time). I suppose that the goal of this image is to demonstrate a sculpture for using it here in wikipedia projects, a more tight crop close-up shot will be better (with less messy elements around - look the note). Ggia (talk) 13:17, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I kind of enjoyed seeing it and I envy you for the FOP for public art in Sweden. The main subject is interesting. However, I have to agree with many of the comments put forth by Ggia, especially concerning the position of the unfortunate spot right in front of the nose, and the too busy composition. Besides the lamp issue, I think the light is good though, and I do not mind the time of day as such. --Slaunger (talk) 22:19, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment I added a note of a new suggest crop over the image (in order the subject to be less centered). I would like to ask you (if you remember because it is an image from 1981) if the yellowish light is due to the butter-candles that Buddhist monasteries usually have inside. Keep uploading more images like that. Ggia (talk) 13:02, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Yann and Ggia. I took the image in a nearly dark room in the Hemis Monastery illuminated by many yak-butter lamps. This is the reason for the yellow light in the face by the lady. My camera Olympus OM-1 had 30 years ago no possibility to make spot exposure. The Olympus OM-4 had two years later (1983) the possibility to make spot exposure like other cameras later on. Therefore is the forehead and a part of the nose by the lady in the dark room overexposed. Ggia, I made your crop, the lady stands now on the left side of the image. --Michael Gäbler (talk) 21:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support nice image, the image has no problem with white balance.. the yellow light inside a Buddhist monastery is due to the yak-butter yellow lighting. Ggia (talk) 22:32, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good stuff. Had it been a 2011 photo I would have opposed due to technical issues, but considering it is somewhat historic, and the mood and authenticity is great, I am happy to support. Like the light, the details in the hair and the clothings. --Slaunger (talk) 22:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Good composition, but the colors are waaay too strong and look unreal. Moreover, there are many parts in the image (maybe 20-30 pixels wide) that look strangely distorted/blurred, maybe water drops on the lens? The red patch right behind the head of the first cyclist is also unfortunate. --Kabelleger (talk) 21:27, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose High quality descriptive photo of this species. However, dull light, and boring composition. The composition is somewhere between centered and "rule of third", and does not seem balanced due to this. --Slaunger (talk) 14:42, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Well it's probably valuable, but I don't have knowledge to appreciate. Compositionwise, It doesn't stand out among other shot in my opinion (centered subject with non appealing context, though probably educative, some would say). - Benh (talk) 21:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support It is educative. At first sight I thought: "What on earth is that!?" Looked like some guts of an alien something. Then I opened the image and was pleased to se a very correct, focused, low-noise picture of the subject. I like the colors combination too. --Paolo Costa (talk) 03:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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OpposeI find the tiles in the lower right corner distracting. Good photo, nice light, fairly good composition and colors, but not splendid quality given the relatively easy to photograph subject. The shadow of the church tower on some buildings is a little unfortunate. I looked for the EXIF to find time-of-day info, but did not find any? I guess it must have been relatively close to noon? I think that a morning or evening photo would have given a more delicate, soft light on the subject (depending on the orientation of the building relative to the sun). --Slaunger (talk) 23:03, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This church is everything else than a "relatively easy to photograph subject". And I like the tiles at the bottom, but it is a matter of taste. --Wladyslaw (talk) 07:14, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Concerning the tiles, on second thought, they actually play a useful role. They add a sense of depth, they illustrate that you have taken the photo from another building(?), and the slope fits compositionally well with the street. But why is the subject (which I guess is not only the church, but also its surroundings) "everything else than a relatively easy to photograph subject"? I mean, the object is static, it will be there tomorrow and next year, and the buildings themselves are visually attractive? Is it getting to a good view of the scenary, which is hard? --Slaunger (talk) 07:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have added now object and camera location of this shot. Church and complex are located very closly to Castle Füssen so this condition makes it difficult to find a good location showing all relevant buildings without strong distortions. For verifying look at the geolocation and other pictures showing a similar view of the complex. --Wladyslaw (talk) 07:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I think you're right, it may be a bit on the red side. I'll correct it in the afternoonFixed. (Can it not also be chosen as a FP because another, almost identical image, has already been? I'd like to hear the opinion from others too - BTW I had checked on montreal FP tagged pics and hadn't seen yours, only one pic that was taken at night) --Paolo Costa (talk) 12:50, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
They actually renovated the pinacles : they replaced the old, greenish-greyish copper with new, bright, copper-colored copper. It will oxydise with time and match the old ones in color. Quite a number of buildings over there in Canada are roofed in copper. --MAURILBERT(discuter)13:38, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: too over-processed - very low image quality for FPC --Ggia (talk) 14:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Info created, uploaded and nominated by Paolostefano1412 -- Paolostefano1412 (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Support -- Paolostefano1412 (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Oppose 
Question I like it and I can support it, but, to me, "Own work" means that you are the author of the figures, are you the author? Who is the creator?--Miguel Bugallo 16:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC).svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment_(orange).svg.png)
Comment Photography is a medium, a window, a go between... Just about nothing that a photographer photographs is his "own work" in the strict sense of being the creator of the object photographed and the photographer of the object at the same time. While this combination is possible, statistically speaking is a rarity. A photographer captures reality according to his vision, constructs the image from several elements most likely created by someone else, man, nature, God or whatever. He does this by choosing the spatial arrangements of the objects photographed, uses technique to enhance, diminish the importance of objects, to create proportion or relationship, to isolate from the environment or to integrate to other dissimilar elements, etc., etc. In a few words, a photograph is constructed with elements, and it is the result of certain cualitative and cuantitavive values. Cuantitative values are the technical aspects, exposure, depth of field, movement control. Cualitative values are a different animal altogether, for they are culturally given, as aesthetics for example, and certain traits like color, texture, volume etc., have an appeal of different degree to different people, and are part of the cualitative aspects that influence the perception of the image. So, in this particular case, and 99.9999999999999999% of my photography, I am just a medium that chooses how much or how little to show, and my success or failure depends on my decision with regards to technique and my own perception of aesthetis, and my own cultural capital, and or knowledge or ignorance of the subject matter, which incidetally also plays a part to the observer of the image when it comes to deciding whether the image works or not. Taste is also the product of cultural capital. So, in this particular case, the objects photographed are an extraction of a larger context and reality and no, they are not my own work. My own work is a set of desicions that brings the collection of objects to the two dimensional plane called photography.--Tomascastelazo (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC).jpg)
Neutral Quality is a little below the highest examples one may find on Commons. --MAURILBERT (discuter) 16:14, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination Tomer T (talk) 20:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Request Fix the stitching problem I noted & I won't have a problem supporting this. Nice composition, btw. Earthsound (talk) 18:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Keep -- Still an amazing picture. No sense in delisting based on size. Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:42, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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chromatic aberration →AzaToth 03:25, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Strong oppose A stitched panorama should have a superb quality, and the severe stitching errors in combination of the relative low JPEG quality (losts of ghosting, visible artifacts) is a no no to me. →AzaToth 15:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Weak oppose while the scene is intresting, I feel it's badly cropped related to the fountain the the foreground. →AzaToth 21:42, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Weak support 
Łukasz Wolf Golowanow (talk) 00:23, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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Done--Citron (talk) 18:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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Abstain as author --C. Quesada (talk) 09:18, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Strong support -- Excellent! Could somebody please forward this picture to the Dutch railways, who are able to create chaos with just a few centimeters of snow? MartinD (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
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Fixed. (Can it not also be chosen as a FP because another, almost identical image, has already been? I'd like to hear the opinion from others too - BTW I had checked on montreal FP tagged pics and hadn't seen yours, only one pic that was taken at night) --Paolo Costa (talk) 12:50, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
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